Thursday, February 5

response to move on dot org

To Noah T. Winer - at (open letter)

It isn't that easy.
The stimulus packages propel the same old, same old avenues, the ones which got us into trouble in the first place. Obama means well, and I voted for him. But when I glance through the glory, he is just an other politician, someone who has to play by the rules of the system.
The aching economy can not be solved by injections, same as the inability of Viagra to support true love - just an other "hard on" that will limp eventually. The conservatives instinct themselves what to do, so do the liberals. Both have been selected (elected) to be the keeper of the house, the dorm that we, the people, inhabit.
We have to become much more radical than just "move-on". Time is near when the whole narcissistic system of greed and Darwin's capitalism of survival of the fittest will collapse. No "stimulus" or "hard-on" will halt that path.
Well, the solution is pretty easy. Rely less on centralized "father" and "mother" figures - like Obama... and instead grow local independence from Washington (in the case of the USA). This sounds like I am a Libertarian, but I am not. What I do though have in common with their views, is that centralized economics and power-politics drive society into complete dependence by large cooperation's and political parties.
So no, I will not donate $25 for an advertisement that will support a "stimulus-package". I believe I will buy seeds instead for that amount of money and plant more vegetables for the next season to come.

Regards, Lukas

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Noah T. Winer, Political Action wrote:

Conservatives are playing politics with Obama's stimulus plan while Americans suffer. Can you write a letter to the editor about the real cost of inaction?
Write a letter
Dear MoveOn member,
President Obama's economic stimulus plan is in trouble. Conservative talking points are dominating the media's coverage and there's lots of misinformation around. Here are a few things you may not have heard about it:
1) This is a very, very good bill. As The Nation writes, "If enacted, the economic recovery plan will be one of the biggest and boldest pieces of progressive legislation in the past forty years."1
Here are some facts about what the bill really does:
* Creates or saves 3 million to 4 million jobs in the next two years.
* Averts "literally hundreds of thousands of teacher layoffs"—and doubles funding for the Department of Education.
* Creates 500,000 green jobs and doubles our clean energy production.4
* Immediately helps unemployed folks get affordable health insurance.5
Some folks are arguing that it should be bigger, and they're probably right, but this is the best down payment on economic recovery we have seen, and it needs to be passed.
2) The stuff that's being singled out for criticism amounts to a tiny fraction of the bill—like anti-smoking programs that make up less than one-ten-thousandth of the spending.6 They would have you believe this is the centerpiece of the bill. It is not. This kind of nit-picking is pure politics.
3) If it doesn't pass, we're in deep trouble. Even John McCain's economic adviser estimates that without the stimulus, unemployment would top 11% by 2010, the highest level since the Great Depression.7

my comment:
If it doesn't pass, we will not be in deeper trouble than we already are. The so called "stimulus package" included provisions to encourage to buy American goods. Now that's a funny joke indeed. All we have here is Chinese t-shirts and cheap underwear, BMW's and VW's made in Germany and assembled in Mexico and Taiwan, oil from the Saudi's, telephone help for product info on computers from India... and peanuts from Georgia. What's left? Seriously, what is left? Bye bye buy! There is nothing left to buy "American" anymore besides steel and corn. Levis sold out a while ago, and all the rest of them corporates followed suit. No more American pants to pet your legs, no more American Colgate to brush your teeth, no more Marlboro's to make them teeth dirty again. They are all gone ... overseas. All they do here is keep their patented name in the USA. Gloria, hallelujah.


SaoirseDaily2 said...

I SO want to plant a garden this year. I want to plant a salsa garden. Tomatoes, peppers, jalapenos and green onions. Then in the other raised bed maybe some polka dot pumpkins and midnight pink pumpkins that I got the seeds from last Halloween. An old friend gave me 2 bags of hollyhock pods (all colors) and I want to plant them all along the fence in my backyard. Such ambitious winter dreams hu?

The Rambling Taoist said...

Good observations. I agree that the so-called stimulus package is just a reworking of the same old strategies that put us in this mess to begin with.

What we need is to revolutionize the way we live both as a society and individuals. Me thinks we need to embrace the idea: Live Simply So Others Can Simply Live.

Celloman said...

I couldn't agree with you more, Zee! And all this rhetoric about jobs, but no really good explanation about how they will be created. And putting more money into education...never helped before, won't help now. How about changing the education system, and start parenting. I think Obama may have to start smoking on White House grounds soon.

Seraphine said...

anything to create jobs right now has my support. almost 1 in 10 people in california is unemployed, and the situation is getting worse. too many people are going to plant seeds this spring but not have a home when harvest comes. it's a national tragedy.

jozien said...

I don't understand everything you write (i don't follow politics that much), but i also kind of think all that buying stuff leads to nothing, it might lead to more jobs, maybe. But what do we need more jobs for, to buy more stuff we don't need.
I too will plant my garden. And gather in the wild. I find i'm busy enough without a real job.
And the way we have set it up over the years, our bills are minimal.

Anonymous said...

I agree that it is no real solution ... but I guess they have to try. While I am sad for this generation that will have to go through it, I'm sadder for the one to follow ... and maybe a few more after that. The change needed will probably be preceeded by incredible suffering.

lindsaylobe said...

Zee – stimulus packages, recession, depression, recovery and boom cycles all continue with one single constant that is continued change.

In 1860 a letter posted took 3 months to be delivered until the Pony Express reduced that time taken to 10 days.

But the Pony Express only lasted for another 19 months, replaced by the telegraph system which in turn vanished with automation within the next decade. Horse driven carriage builders and saddlers declared the motor vehicle a passing fad until transport systems rapidly made them obsolete. The U.S. auto industry by contrast enjoyed an extraordinarily good run until it became unsustainable in the past decade or so ago?

The trouble with stimulus packages is we are not clear about what exactly we are we trying to stimulate. Is the stimulus package designed to support sustainable investment in the future or a resurrection of that which is already superseded ? A good veggie patch seems to be a good idea and one that has withstood the ravages if time.

It would not be of surprise me if once we finally emerge from the current economic crisis another will be evident; namely a food crisis which will only be averted if we move globally to greater reliance on a more bio diversified approach to farming reliant on nature for its sustainability.

Now that’s what I would like to see, a stimulus package to assist organic farming, which incidentally exceeds all other forms of carbon absorption.

Best wishes